[ACTION *******]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

This is terrible arguing sir. Regardless of who is right in your little squabble, you are both equally bad at arguing, and you have both made statements that are not true, or are biased.

oh nooo nejifan thinks im bad at arguing, if only i cared about his opinion, since you know he's such an amazing debater and all.

my argument did what it was supposed to do, point out why what they were saying was full of crap. beyond that, i really don't care. and I didn't say anything that was untrue. and I'm not bias at all. theres no doubt in my mind it might not be obito, afterall, kishimoto is a terrible writer

Originally Posted by Nejifan

Again, while I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying, it doesn't change the fact that your argument style is invalid. Honestly, you sound like a troll. Don't get me wrong, a lot of what you say is indeed true, but you honestly look like someone who is seeking out conflict intentionally. That's a troll. Might want to work on that. Just a bit of advice.

not only does that not make what is aid any less true, not only do i not care about what you think of my style, but im not trolling on the basis that im not intentionally trying to cause derailing or arguing. my intentions were to point out that they were basing their terrible "theories" off of nothing. allanime01 was the one arguing. sounds he like he was the troll.

Originally Posted by TheLastHokage

Woah.

I mean, even if the interview is fake, being fake, it still makes more sense than "Obito being Tobi", heck, it was even better when they said Madara was Tobi.

it doesn't because we are given no reason to believe its izuna at all. you could very well replace the name izuna with anyone else (adding in time travel theories when necessary) and the thought makes as much sense and has as much basis for existing as izuna.

the difference between him being izuna and him being obito or madara is that we had some amount of reason to believe those things. he said he was madara, some people came to the conclusion of him being madara on their own, etc. and he clearly at the absolute very least has obito's body, his name is reminiscent of obito, and he speaks as though he knows kakashi, implying that his connections to obito are more than superficial.

however we have 0 reason to even consider it being izuna. you are MAKING evidence after drawing a conclusion instead of letting the evidence point you to a conclusion. you are, quite literally, doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by TheLastHokage

Now, I supposed that because Yamato looked like Hiruko, he was Hiruko.

nope, because we knew it was yamato, try again

Originally Posted by TheLastHokage

And because Tobi said he was Madara, he was Madara.

considering the connections to obito werent concrete and him being madara was better than obito and considering some, such as the 4th hokage naturally thought it was madara on their own without having to be told he was madara, and the fact that seemingly everyone in the ninja worls who hears him say "im madara!" believes he's madara with little to no questions asked...yeah, yeah I'd say we had reason to believe he was madara, even if it turned out not to be true

Originally Posted by TheLastHokage

And, if Naruto, a Genin, Mastered and created his own Transformation Technique, a full grown man, leader of Akatsuki and insanely genius person couldn't make a better way of looking like someone else.

so because naruto has the sexy jutsu, that makes it izuna...thats really an argument you feel comfortable putting out there. *sigh*

and nejifan called ME the troll.

Originally Posted by TheLastHokage

Also back in Chapter 510, when Tobi gets his mask broken by Konan, his left eye had a black sclera, something that revived people have.

looks more like shadow and artistic effect to me =/

Originally Posted by TheLastHokage

I could proceed, but have no time.
Mr. ACTION******, sir, I urge you to reconsider making your mind, a little more, flexible. This series have proved that anything can happen, and he always tell us how and why. Tobi can be Obito, but he has to explain more and risk getting less viewers that way.

my mind is very flexible. it can potentially be anyone. I'm simply more inclined to believe things that make sense and you haven't given me any reason to believe this is all.

honestly I have no idea why everyone here seems to think that me disagreeing with bad baseless guesses means that im somehow inflexible or whatever. that's simply not true. it just takes more than fake interviews, that sounded fake as heck, to persuade me.

they not strengthen your argument based on whats been said instead of going "nuh uh, it could be izuna because it COULD be"

all I did originally was point out why the things you were saying were wrong such as the rain orphan thing, which even your partner in crime agreed was 100% false

and even if you dont want to take into account what I said about each piece of your guess, now that I confirmed the interview is fake you should probably completely rework your ideas for WHY its izuna. because lets be honest, without that interview a good chunk of what you were saying there is invalid. heck even with the interview some of it was invalid.

Originally Posted by pyrot53

You are an idiot if you think that interview is real.

QFT