part 2
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F*YAY*K NO! It's a "Theory" for a F*yay*king reason you moron! My own guess and explanation as to why I think it might be this way. If i'm right, then yippee skippy and yahoo, I guess this manga hasn't gone to s*yay*t after all!
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calling me a moron why you believe everything you read off the internet juuuust adorable.
see, when you make a theory you generally have valid reasons to support said theory and for thinking said theory in the first place. this is just based on random speculation. its like you and your friends were in your room and you were all "you know what would be awesome? if tobi was actually izuna" you then go off thinking of made up ways it could possibly be izuna, even when they contradict current information.
so yeah, theres kind of a difference between the two.
and trust me, obito or not, its gone to ****. its been that way for a long time now and one identity change isnt going to change that. im not quite sure how you think it being izuna suddenly fixes every other mistake kishimoto has made the last few years and make the manga good again.
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Originally Posted by allanime01
However, i'll bite. You said yourself that "all the evidence backs ME up so people need to stop making theories to why it's not"
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never said that bro, but i guess you cant see through your internet goggles that make dumb things look true.
you are most certainly allowed to make whatever random grasping for straws guesses you want. that is well within your right as a human being. I certainly had no intention to stop that. I was trying to bring to light the holes in this "theory" so that it wouldn't sound so bad. the dude said izuna did what we know jiraiya did for god sakes =/.
sorry but the moment he said that he became dumb. you can report me or say "hey, stop being mean to him you big bully" all you want. it doesn't change that he was saying dumb things.
[quote=allanime01;1331885]but the thing is a good writer doesn't just make a character be someone for s
*yay*ts and giggles.[/QUOTES]
of course. to do so would make you a terrible writer
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Originally Posted by allanime01
He needs reason, motivation, cause.
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absolutely. agreed 100% good chap.
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The character has to have a motive and a purpose for himself. Naruto wants to be respected by the village.
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its like you are reading my mind
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Sasuke is a bad character and has been doing things for stupid reasons for quite some time
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fixed that for you
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Pain wanted peace in the world. All of those are examples.
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indeed they are
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Tell me one GOOD reason why Tobi is Obito. Obito, the man that died calling Kakashi and his father a hero because he would never abandon comrades. Obito, the guy that helped little old ladies with bags even if it meant being late for the most important exam for a genin. Obito, who is BASICALLY NARUTO WITH A SHARINGAN!!!!!
Tell me why Tobi being Obito makes any sense whatsoever, and i'l drop it.
inb4 you quote this and literally just say "Because they showed us it's Obito" Yeah, appearance altering/body stealing justus don't exist or anything.
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well you got me sir. for you see i agree with you 100% and a good writer should keep all those things in mind when making a good character. and I cannot for the life of me come up with a good reason for it being obito and never claimed to be able to for you see...
MASASHI KISHIMOTO IS A TERRIBLE WRITER!!!!!
for the love of...come on. what manga have you been reading. like i said before, it being izuna doesn't change the crap he's done in the past. or even the crap he's done in this very chapter (completely contradicting things such as character ages) or wtf moments (usually involving sasuke) or how poorly sakura is treated (sorry but his "hinata would probably make a better heroin" isnt an excuse for not writing her well because she has potential. shes only bad because he makes her bad) or how he wastes character potential in general and never showing anyone do anything. cuz there HAVE been opportunities. the story revolving around naruto is no excuse to not show others doing things when the opportunity arises, and it has arisen several times. he doent even utilize narutos own team mates well, let alone his other friends.
so yeah, theres no ****ing good reason its obito. i never claimed there was. kishimoto is a hack. and i have no idea what happened to him because several years ago i would have said he was a GREAT writer. if not great then at least above average and clearly competent.
all i claimed was that proof was on my side. i never said I LIKED it. I said it being izuna is dumb, I didn't say it being obito ISN'T dumb.
now, regardless of our differing opinions on how good an idea izuna is, i say this based on the notion that izuna is a much much much much much much much better idea than obito and what i say is this
you give that man too much credit. the dude apparently cant even remember how old his characters are, forget being able to implement a mystery character well.