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part 1

Originally Posted by allanime01

You claim its fake, and yet you don't know that. I see no proof saying it's real or faked. So you choose not to believe it, while I choose to believe it.

exactly, you just choose to believe shifty sounding interviews on the internet just because and I choose NOT to believe everything I read on the internet.

Originally Posted by allanime01

I choose to believe that the writer has more sense than to do something that he knows full well A) none of the fans want and B) makes literally no sense.

what we know: masashi kishimoto is a bad writer

what we don't know: he actively chooses good ideas and chooses not to use bad ideas.

you are implying he has sense to begin with. he clearly lost that a long time ago. and it being izuna doesn't change that.

Originally Posted by allanime01

I mean do you hear yourself? You don't have any further explanation on it being Obito than I do of it possibly being Izuna. Yeah, he looks like Obito.

sure doesn't look like izuna =/. not to mention the name is reminiscent of obito and he was talking to kakashi as though he knew him.

Originally Posted by allanime01

Man, it's not like anyone has jutsus that change appearance

then he might want to get rid of that face deformation from where he was crushed. or better yet, look like his brother madara who he was trying to impersonate. or at least like himself who is allegedly the greatest thing since sliced madara.

Originally Posted by allanime01

steal bodies or anything!

he might want to not steal the body of a 1/2 crushed one eyed 13 year old bad ninja. cuz i was only slightly exaggerating before...cuz if he was limited due to his own power level, which seems iffy, i imagine he'd still be able to take an academy student who, at the very least, isn't 1/2 crushed and missing an eye.

Originally Posted by allanime01

I have a perfectly legit theory on Izuna being Tobi.

that's impossible seeing as theres nothing remotely hinting that its izuna, other than the shifty fake interview. thats like me saying i have a legitimate theory that you are a 12 foot alien lizard because i read in an interview with your parents that you were. guess what, the average reaction to that should be "parents are crazy" or "seems fake and amde up, no way his parents said that", not "my god...i cant believe he's a 1 foot tall alien lizard!"

Originally Posted by allanime01

Izuna was actually the most powerful Uchiha, NOT Madara.

based on what? oh, right, your imagination. certainly not on things we've learned from the manga.

if izuna was all that and a bag of chips, why is everyone all "omfg madara!!!!!" and not "omfg izuna!!!!!"? if he was the best and if he took his brothers eyes (basically making him leafs founder, not no eyed madara) and he fought hashirama...why does everyone think madara did those things. that just doesn't add up.

Originally Posted by allanime01

he took Madaras eyes

you should be on fosters home for imaginary friends, your imagination is boundless

Originally Posted by allanime01

HE fought with the First Hokage

see, there's this guy. you might know him actually, his name is madara. he was revived recently and he seems to be under the impression that HE fought hashirama. he also has eternal mangekyou sharingan, which you get from taking your brothers eyes. weird huh.

Originally Posted by allanime01

the battle that left him (actual quote here, look it up yourself) "A shell of his former self"

i know the quote. tobi or itachi said it to sasuke when explaining tobi/himself...while calling him madara. and compared to the awesome power that is madara, obito, even super powered "omg look at me i somehow have mangekyou sharingan and time space jutsu" obito would seem like quite the shell.

but then, its not madara, who, unlike izuna, we've actually seen for real outside of flashbacks. who lives up to his reputation and then some. who has eyes you obtain from taking your brothers eyes.

we know jack and squat about izuna so you saying things is just that...you saying things. and thats what i dont think you understand. I'm saying things based off what, admittedly little, we know (assuming its true). you and TC are just spouting seemingly random things with no basis.

Originally Posted by allanime01

Call me crazy

you crazy

Originally Posted by allanime01

but a "shell" of someone doesn't sound Kage or Sannin level strong. The fact he was old meant little compared to the "crippled" part.

they didnt use the word crippled, you just did. and you know what, thats still pretty subjective. the madara we have witnessed recently is pretty much a god even not counting the fact that he cant be killed and regenerates damage instantly. his jutsu are just on a completely different level, and he's implying he's still holding back. actually, not implying, its a fact he is since he stopped using that super saiyan susano'o from before.

compared to that level of power, which even all 5 kage are having trouble against...yeah, I'd say even the average jounin would be a shell or a cripple compared to that, especially since you are saying izuna is even stronger then THAT. heck, even the sannin and kage would seem like a shell. if you went to sleep as a madara level ninja and woke up as tsunade or gaara or something...I'd say you are a shell of your formal self.

of course this is meaningless since the shell thing was just for OBITO to explain why he as "madara" wasn't a demigod.

and please if you answer anything in this post answer me this...how does taking over the body of a 13 year old 1/2 crushed one eyed kid make you not a shell of your former self. did taking over his body allow him to be capable of more somehow? why did doing that allow him to be capable of more than taking over an untalented not dead kid. maybe even a healthy more talented younger kid. more potential, not dying, and still weak.

Originally Posted by allanime01

It can work it's completely possible, and there's literally no proof that says it's not.

it doesnt work, it is however completely possible given that kishimoto is a terrible writer and this is a terrible idea. and theres literally no proof that its not the second hokage.

Originally Posted by allanime01

Does that mean I think i'm some "Master detective" like you imply? (now who is putting words in someones mouth?)

trust me lol, i don't think you are a master detective. and I wasn't implying you thought you were. I was implying that if kishimoto became an even worse writer than he already is and made this happen, that you shouldn't get on some sort of "woot, called it" high horse. I was letting you know that if pigs fly and you are correct that its because kishimoto is a hack, not that you were sliced bread.

because this isnt really any better than obito. I would argue worse. now thats somewhat opinion, so let me tell you why I think that. because he's been lying to us and setting us up for a lie for years if it is izuna. he's hinted the crap out of obito, leaving us clues that may or may not have really been clues and may just have been fans making more of things that were meaningless in reality.

however, to hint at obito and then give us someone he introduced relatively recently who we know basically nothing about, who wasnt hinted at what so ever isnt good writing. its just m night kishimotalan being bad.

dont get me wrong, im not saying it being obito is a good thing. I'm just saying why izuna doesnt exactly fix things in my mind. cuz thats still bad writing. whether its better or worse than obito is debatable. but its still bad writing.