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kunoalpha 01-10-2013 11:36 AM

What are good side board cards for the format right now?
 
I'm still getting back into it and with Chunin's starting up in my area soon I'm wondering what are good sides against what deck

Right now I'm siding 2x Temari [Gale Force] Against decks like JI and Perm Earth, and 2x Shimon against decks that go PIP heavy as well, but other than that I'm not sure what are good side options right now

[I'm currently rolling a Lightning/X Variant, and I was thinking application of the first stage but I'm not sure how heavily played water is atm in my area.]

Suggestions guys?

shido 01-10-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kunoalpha (Post 1346021)
I'm still getting back into it and with Chunin's starting up in my area soon I'm wondering what are good sides against what deck

Right now I'm siding 2x Temari [Gale Force] Against decks like JI and Perm Earth, and 2x Shimon against decks that go PIP heavy as well, but other than that I'm not sure what are good side options right now

[I'm currently rolling a Lightning/X Variant, and I was thinking application of the first stage but I'm not sure how heavily played water is atm in my area.]

Suggestions guys?

You are prolly going to need something to stop mental its lightning x weakness mission negate effect negate and if you pip shimon negate

Earthbullet 01-10-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shido (Post 1346032)
You are prolly going to need something to stop mental its lightning x weakness mission negate effect negate and if you pip shimon negate

pakkun stops mental nicely and lets kakashi come out sooner

ninja negate
sabiru
a quiet day
Kurenai

NextoftheLegacy 01-10-2013 03:45 PM

S27 Pakkun definitely. It seems Mental Power is getting more common now that people have figured out it has a great curve, great missions, and that Mind Transfer and Interrogation are really good in that deck. As it stands currently, Earth has no consistent answers to Pakkun though besides egging it out to battle somehow, or using something like Striking Shadow Snake or Moment of Weakness. All of those require considerable splashing.

I've seen people side Gameru in Lightning because it's on-element and sideboard-ish, but I'd say the usual negate like T2 Pakkun or Temari [GF] are better sideboard material. I'd much rather negate and discard than have it remain accessible. Plus Gameru's pool of cards it can negate is smaller. He's still an on-color possibility if it tickles your fancy though.

Some good sideboard staples are Shimon as you mentioned, Sabiru/A Quiet Day to halt nasty effects on block, Suigetsu [Dehydrated] to stop key effects like Naraka and Shimon on attack, and whatever else you find that can put a damper on commonly used strategies and counters to whatever might shut down your deck. Building a sideboard is all about being aware of the meta, the meta's weaknesses, and your deck's weaknesses.

I'd advise against Application of the First Stage because it's really doesn't provide your deck with answers to game-changing cards. Instead it's a situational jutsu that you'll only use against water decks that you can probably beat anyways.

Your sideboard might look something like this if you need Pakkun:
2x Pakkun
2x Temari
2x Shimon
2x Sabiru/Quiet Day
2x Suigetsu

Obviously subject to adjustments based on how important you feel they are. For example, if you really don't find Suigetsu all that useful you could take one out for a third Temari or another card your deck needs to keep functioning properly or to break your opponent's strategies.

Or you could get really creative with a sideboard that COMPLETELY changes the premise of your deck. Those are my favorites, but they leave you open to ridiculous things like perpetual Determination to Protect.

Rule of thumb: you can never go wrong building your sideboard with cards that protect your deck from unexpected effects or strike at the weak spots of meta decks. The composition of your sideboard should depend on how your deck interacts with the meta in general. From there it builds itself if you're willing to comb through the card search.


I spent a bit of time writing this, so yeah, pretty much what Earthbullet said, but elucidated a little.

EDIT: Forgot to mention Tailed Beast Sealing and Overwhelming Hunger as sideboard options. They're a bit more situational than the usual effect negate.

killerrshinobi 01-10-2013 06:55 PM

Overwhelming hunger is a sideboard for a lot of decks I think cause if it's chuunin I think you could see a tailed beast deck and if I'm an earth player running against a pakkun since I know people WILL be using pakkun for their kakashi's I can just eat him up :3

Sasori_of_the_Red_Sandz 01-10-2013 10:43 PM

Good side board.
Suigetsus that neg effs
Pakkuns that either neg missions or prevent mental
A Quiet Day
Shino Either Silence, or I also see the one from set 27 being a nice alternative.
Overwhelming Hunger. So I can eats tailed beasts
If your using Wind, Extra secret books if you arent maining 3
If using Fire, A New Orders, or Shadow of the Leaf
Also for against revitalize Smash

shido 01-11-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sasori_of_the_Red_Sandz (Post 1346067)
Good side board.
Suigetsus that neg effs
Pakkuns that either neg missions or prevent mental
A Quiet Day
Shino Either Silence, or I also see the one from set 27 being a nice alternative.
Overwhelming Hunger. So I can eats tailed beasts
If your using Wind, Extra secret books if you arent maining 3
If using Fire, A New Orders, or Shadow of the Leaf
Also for against revitalize Smash

Question ? How does mission negate hurt rev ? Sure stop that warhawk but that's most decks. Tho heads up to add to the list obito set 27 x2

Susano'o the Storm God 01-11-2013 11:41 PM

Umm, a little off-topic, but since this is about sideboard, I'm gonna ask here. 2 of one kind of Pakkun can be in the sidedeck while 2 of another kind of Pakkun are in the main deck, right?

OC_Powers 01-12-2013 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Susano'o the Storm God (Post 1346235)
Umm, a little off-topic, but since this is about sideboard, I'm gonna ask here. 2 of one kind of Pakkun can be in the sidedeck while 2 of another kind of Pakkun are in the main deck, right?

Yes you can.


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